Fwd: [bmdc-wg] Hello from Jane Binkerd - Get in touch with Cole about 02/24 antiwar rally

Subject: Re: [bmdc-wg] Hello from Jane Binkerd - Get in touch with Cole about 02/24 antiwar rally
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From: Michael Heichman <mikeheichman@verizon.net>
Date: Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 7:20 PM
To: Jane Binkerd <jmbinkerd@hotmail.com>, John Harris <john.r.harris@verizon.net>, Mike Heichman <mikeheichman@icloud.com>, michaelheichman@gmail.com <michaelheichman@gmail.com>
Cc: BMDC Working Group <bmdc@lists.riseup.net>, Lita Xú Líng Kelley <xulingkelley@gmail.com>


Lita,

I apologize. I should have write "her attack on her".

Mike

On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 06:40:22 PM EST, Michael Heichman" (via bmdc Mailing List) <bmdc@lists.riseup.net> wrote:


BMDC:

I have to respond to Jane's mistreatment towards Lita at last night meeting and her attack on him today through our email list.

We were having a discussion on the 2/18 DC Demo and some of us, including Lita, expressed their opinions about the demo. Jane exploded at Lita and repeatedly swore at him. Jane left the meeting. To Lita's credit, he kept his cool and was an active participant throughout the meeting.

Her use of our email list to personally attack Lita and John is outrageous.

I'm sorry that our entire list has to witness this.

Mike Heichman

On Feb 20, 2023, at 1:02 PM, Jane Binkerd <jmbinkerd@hotmail.com> wrote:

FYI
From: Jane Binkerd <jmbinkerd@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 9:59 AM
To: John Harris <john.r.harris@verizon.net>
Subject: Hello from Jane Binkerd - Get in touch with Cole about 02/24 antiwar rally
 
Hello John,
If you like, get in touch with Cole about BMDC's possible participation and endorsement of their antiwar rally on this Friday, February 24th.  I am not going to participate in the rally.  I am withdrawing from BMDC. 

Yes, I reacted last night to Lita's absolute ignorance of the "Rage Against the War" rally and his outrageous statements about it.  Yes, I get angry sometimes too. I could say more about crackpot, Lita, but I will refrain.  Whatever anyone thought of me, I do not care.

I watched the entire rally and listened to ALL of the speakers online.  There was NO insulting comment about any group, "trans" or otherwise.  It was an EXCELLENT rally.  It was much needed to push back against the constant cheerleading for the proxy war with Russia.

If you do not like what I say, I do not care.  People will bow down and cater to Lita because Lita claims to be in an "oppressed" group of trans people.  Lita is the one who oppresses. 

As I said, Lita comes across to me as a DOMINATE ARROGANT MAN.  I have experienced REAL oppresion from MEN all my life.  Lita is a fraud.  Lita behaves and talks like a MAN. I know, I am the one who has suffered from MALE DOMINANCE most of my life. 

The men in the small peace vigil treat me as less than and DOMINATE me.  You reach out to John Macleod even though you KNOW I am an active member of the weekly peace vigil. Of course, JOHN IS A MAN and is therefore seen as the "leader".   There are NO leaders in a tiny group of three to four regulars.  The left is just as oppressive to me as a female as my experience in the conservative missouri synod Lutheran Church. You guys do not understand.  You support and promote abortion and you think that is being pro-women.  It is only pro-death.

NPR was promoting USA participate and support for the proxy war with Russia and the radio this morning.  They said the USA needs to send more weapons and money to the Ukraine "Nazis".   Nazis - That is my input.  Yes, there are Nazis in Ukraine going back to WWII.  Mr. Biden is in Ukraine promising hundreds of thousands more in money to Ukraine.  Did Mr. Biden even visit the desvatated town in Ohio after the train wreck? NO, he did not.  They give more and more of our tax money to Ukraine.  They  call Ukraine a democracy which it is NOT. 

So, the Rage Against the War rally in Washington, D.C. was excellent and exactly what we need.  I will not hear CRAP from ignorant Lita about it.  Lita has his head stuck up his asshole. And, yes, Lita, is definitely a HE.

Jane Binkerd
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From: Lita Xú Líng Kelley <xulingkelley@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 11:01 AM
To: Michael Heichman <mikeheichman@verizon.net>
Cc: Jane Binkerd <jmbinkerd@hotmail.com>, John Harris <john.r.harris@verizon.net>, Mike Heichman <mikeheichman@icloud.com>, michaelheichman@gmail.com <michaelheichman@gmail.com>, BMDC Working Group <bmdc@lists.riseup.net>


Dear Jane,

   It disturbs me that you're slandering and attacking me like this with your defamatory and reactionary rant.

When did I ever dominate and oppress you?!  That is flat out false.  I've been nothing but nice and polite with you every interaction we've ever had.

It is not my fault that you chose to not listen to what I was saying and wouldn't allow me to finish before interrupting with your cuss word filled tirade full of insults and reactionary slurs.  As if that wasn't enough, you then go out of your way to slander and slur me with personal attacks on a public email list.

For clarification to those who were not present during the meeting in question, Ms Blinkerd's reactionary outburst is in response to my comment that the "Rage Against the War Machine" was a shit show.  Rather than listen to why I thought it was a "shit show" she chose to resort to reactionary personal attacks, name calling and immediately left the meeting before anyone could respond.

For Jane's benefit,and anyone else interested in why I said it was a "shit show" please see the following links, which is a mere fraction of what is out there regarding the rally.

https://www.blackagendareport.com/why-rage-against-war-machine-rally-antiwarsowhite

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/02/20/lfjm-f20.html






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From: Lita Xú Líng Kelley <xulingkelley@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 11:07 AM
To: Michael Heichman <mikeheichman@verizon.net>


Hi Mike.  My response didn't make it to the list. 


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From: Lita Xú Líng Kelley <xulingkelley@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 4:33 PM
To: Michael Heichman <mikeheichman@verizon.net>


did my response ever go out to bmdc working list?  was my response okay?


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From: Michael Heichman <michaelheichman@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 4:40 PM
To: Lita Xú Líng Kelley <xulingkelley@gmail.com>, Mike Heichman <mikeheichman@icloud.com>
Cc: Jane Binkerd <jmbinkerd@hotmail.com>, John Harris <john.r.harris@verizon.net>, BMDC Working Group <bmdc@lists.riseup.net>


Lita,

Thanks so much for your thoughtful response to what had happened at the last BMDC meeting.

BMDC must be a safe place to express our political differences. Before Jane's explosion towards you and her use of our public email attack you, we had discussions at our meetings and our email list both before and after the 2/18 demo. Strong opinions were expressed on both sides. However, the discussion was always respectful.

Thank you for the exceptional way that you have handled this unfair and underserved personal attack.

Thanks for also sending out the attached articles.

Mike Heichman


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From: Michael Heichman <mikeheichman@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 5:27 PM
To: Lita Xú Líng Kelley <xulingkelley@gmail.com>, michaelheichman@gmaiil.com <michaelheichman@gmaiil.com>


Lita,

Your response went through and I sent a response that was supportive.

Mike



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From: Michael Heichman <mikeheichman@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 5:28 PM
To: Lita Xú Líng Kelley <xulingkelley@gmail.com>, michaelheichman@gmaiil.com <michaelheichman@gmaiil.com>


Lita,

Here is your message.

Mike



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From: MICHAEL HEICHMAN <mikeheichman@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 5:34 PM
To: Lita Xú Líng Kelley <xulingkelley@gmail.com>, Mike Heichman <mikeheichman@verizon.net>


Lita,

Yes!

Did you also see my message in your support,

Let me know whether you received both messages.

Mike


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From: Lita Xú Líng Kelley <xulingkelley@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 5:42 PM
To: MICHAEL HEICHMAN <mikeheichman@verizon.net>


Yes, I did. Thank you


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From: Lita Xú Líng Kelley <xulingkelley@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 12:14 PM
To: <queenritamonkey@gmail.com>


Here's Jane's transphobic attack that started all this back in February.  All because I called the nazi supported antiwar rally a shit show