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Fwd: [bmdc-discuss] Responds to Stevie's slander of me and David K.

---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Jane Binkerd < jmbinkerd@hotmail.com > Date: Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 2:33 PM Subject: [bmdc-discuss] Responds to Stevie's slander of me and David K. To: BMDC Discuss < bmdc-discuss@lists.riseup.net > Cc: Joe Kebartas < jkdixie@gmail.com > Hello Again Folks, Have any of you taken the time to watch the videos I sent out about why trans women should not be in sporting competitions with biological females?  Caitlyn Jenner is stating the same things that David K. and I are stating about fairness for biological women.  Will you start calling Ms. Jenner transphobic too? Stevie wrote this about me and David K., " I'm tired of the transphobic shit. I am tired of the ridiculous arguments defending the transphobia. David is an absolute jackass and so is Jane"   It is a shame that Stevie wrote such an awful, slanderous and unjust thing about me and David.  Peace and all Goo...

Fwd: [bmdc-discuss] "Hate speech"

---------- Forwarded message --------- From: DAVID KEIL < bmdc-discuss@lists.riseup.net > Date: Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:20 AM Subject: [bmdc-discuss] "Hate speech" To: BMDC Discuss < bmdc-discuss@lists.riseup.net > A member has claimed on the BMDC-Work list that other members are "promoting a white nationalist hate group" and are engaged in "hate speech." The member gave no specifics. Failure to provide specifics for such a serious charge against other members is itself problematic and disruptive. Evidently the member considers a YouTube interview with a high-school female athlete, Chelsea Mitchell, to be "promoting a white nationalist hate group" because the video was distributed by the Alliance Defending Freedom. The claim that BMDC member engage in "hate speech" may be based on some members' use of the term "biological male" and "biological female". The ADL (Anti-Defamation League) states: "P...

Fwd: [bmdc-discuss] Thoughts on BMDC'S stance against supporting biological women in sports

Subject: [bmdc-discuss] Thoughts on BMDC'S stance against supporting biological women in sports ------------------------ From: Jane Binkerd < jmbinkerd@hotmail.com > Date: Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 4:49 PM To: BMDC Discuss < bmdc-discuss@lists.riseup.net >, Joe Kebartas < jkdixie@gmail.com > Hello Folks, I do not agree with the statement being shared that trans "women" are women.  They are not biological women and never will be real women. This is called facing reality.    Except for a few, BMDC members do not understand or care about preserving women's sports for women, not men like Lia Thomas.  By the way Caitlyn Jenner agrees with protecting women's sports for biological women only.  Caitlyn understands the biological differences and advantages in sports that males have over females. Even with hormone treatments for trans women the physical advantages in sports persists for them. I care about the p...

Fwd: [bmdc-discuss] The topic of transphobia for BMDC meeting

Subject: RE: [bmdc-discuss] The topic of transphobia for BMDC meeting ------------------------ From: Jane Binkerd < jmbinkerd@hotmail.com > Date: Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 1:01 PM To: BMDC Discuss < bmdc-discuss@lists.riseup.net > Hello Folks, I am dismayed that some in BMDC think members are transphobic for wanting to protect biological women in their sports and access to restrooms, changing rooms and the like.  I sent out video attachments featuring women in sports talking about the unfairness for them competing against trans women who have male biological advantages.  Did you view the videos? Caitlyn Jenner asserts that women should not compete with trans women due to the physical advantages trans women have in terms of size, strength and endurance.  This is a biological fact.  Many excellent women athletes from high school sports onwards are losing to trans women in sports.  They are losing titles and scholarships.  This is not fair to gir...

Fwd: [bmdc-discuss] Female sports and the words "woman" and "male"

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Subject: [bmdc-discuss] Female sports and the words "woman" and "male" ------------------------ From: DAVID KEIL < bmdc-discuss@lists.riseup.net > Date: Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 11:04 AM To: BMDC Discuss < bmdc-discuss@lists.riseup.net > Below is a thread from 'BMDC-WG', first contribution at bottom by Jane. Another member described Jane's post of a video interview with a high-school athlete as "promoting a white-supremacist group." In the post immediately below I observed that the word "woman" has two very different meanings, so that we might agree that transwomen are women as well as male persons. This was later called "ridiculous" and I withdrew any suggestion that we agree on it. On the other side, feminists view the idea that men are women as ridiculous. In actual practice, the word "woman" does have contradictory meanings, biological and social. Thus I don't consider "transwomen are women...

Fwd: [bmdc-discuss] A misogynistic attack on women, language, and reality

Subject: [bmdc-discuss] A misogynistic attack on women, language, and reality ------------------------ From: DAVID KEIL < bmdc-discuss@lists.riseup.net > Date: Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 9:09 PM To: < bmdc-discuss@lists.riseup.net > This is to express my concern about a cult of gender identity that I consider to be misogynistic and contrary to science and logic. This cult claims that persons are in all cases of whatever sex they claim to be and demands that males who claim to be females have access to all-female spaces, including locker rooms, sports teams, and rape crisis centers. Because the cult is based purely on faith, not evidence or reason, it demands also that any dissent from its claims be silenced. We are seeing this in BMDC and it poses a threat to the existence of the group. The gender-identity cult is autocratic and anti-democratic. Its base of support is the Democratic Party and the profitable industry of what is falsely called "gender-affirming care." T...